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JesusNachosForever wrote

I always aimed for the first hour the store is open.

Employees are busier prepping for the day, tired, possibly grumpy. Managers are reviewing last nights closeout, and LP/AP are slightly less likely to be there if the store has limited LP/AP staff. I know i'm garbage at work until at least an hour or 2 later.

I dressed halfway nice, since crackheads aren't usually shopping at 10:15a. A coffee cup is a good way to conceal the alpha key you're palming. (not IN the cup). People shopping at 10am are typically "On a mission" and are less likely to aimlessly wander.

Nowadays, in order to walk out empty handed, I'd look for something popular on the company website that is out of stock. I used to have to use those newspaper inserts. That was always hit or miss. But it gives you a reason to stand in one place a little longer and check out your surroundings. "Shop" for your item. If staff approach, ask for out of stock item. Act a little irritated and walk right out.

And for fuck's sake, leave the used bags at home. Use the negative space on your body. Like below ribs to above waist, the small of your back, or under your tits (if you have one or two of those). Spend a lot of time practicing your hand movements like a magician, and practice loading up at home in the mirror to learn how to pack yourself without looking lumpy. The bonus is you might actually look decent in something other than a hoodie. Single folks be aware!

This method worked for me for years. I was never caught while using this method over a 5 year period in several states.

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buckE wrote

It all boils down to your particular threat model.

What does? I wasn't making a suggestion for how someone should act. I was correcting a point in the previous post.

you think you have state actors looking for you then you should probably not be on the internet to begin with.

If you believe this then no one should use the internet, insolidarity with any good people who have any state actors from any state looking for them.

Another approach is to create an infrastructure that is resistant to surveillance, and support that fully and exclusively.

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buckE wrote

I never saw one like that. I see them as thin pieces of metal foil But even without the antenna the radio could connect (to GPS, cell tower) because there may be some resonance in the line itself.

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anarchists_worldwide wrote

I lurk here because I'm finding nearly every post pertains to the USA- I live on the other side of the world, so don't have much to contribute to the posts. Will try and remedy this by posting from time to time :-)

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Covert cameras with near pixel perfect motion detection are cheap and are widely used.

Shit, I have one pointed at my car on the street right now. If my car moves or someone steps too close I get a an alert with a screenshot and immediately hop on my phone for live video. If I have one at home, its likely professionals have better gear.

That technology was available to LP at mid tier retailers at least 15 years ago. I'd assume the cameras are smaller and higher definition than 240p15fps by now. I managed to catch a few lifters who were after high value but chained merch. After the second grab and run, I set up a new camera under a nearby display. Took 2 more grab and runs over about 3 months to catch em, but we did. Fucking store manager hogtied one of them with zip ties. I got a new manager a week later. Ha!

So this end of day concept is garbage. Multi day with a different person is probably the least shit way to do it.

Anyways, the point is. NEVER ASSUME YOU ARE OFF CAMERA.

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Crazyguy wrote

Can confirm. If there was a camera in place they would observe until the end of the day MAX. If the person didn’t return the item would be placed back. If an item is staged and it sits more than 24 hours then LP is clueless as to the location of the items. They won’t risk someone taking it when they aren’t looking.

Know this due to being LP myself but also part of the dark side.

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Reply to comment by Crazyguy in Sewing machine? by 87654321

Crazyguy wrote

Don’t do this at target. They’ll receipt check if they see it, and possibly apprehend depending on if they have enough evidence. Even a first time offense could result in apprehension. And they go hands on there so you can’t just walk on by.

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Reply to comment by Crazyguy in Raise your hand if... by Busted

Crazyguy wrote

Be careful with this.. as an active LP individual I can tell you I’ve sent to police to peoples houses if we already have information on them. PD usually looks at video, asks how we know it’s them, have us verify who they are via a photo and then head on over. Usually not months after, but it can actually happen.

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Lobodax wrote

Yes, case building is a thing. Yes, stores communicate and share photos, info, and methods of operations. This can be formally though ORC joint task forces to ORC bulletins to regional retailers or as informally as one LP sharing photos and identification info on someone that got away.

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Reply to comment by cookies99 in Raise your hand if... by Busted

cookies99 wrote

If it has been months you're safe. I spoke with a criminal lawyer (with 19 years experience) and he's defended lots of lifters. He's never heard of police coming to your house after the you've lifted. Especially months.

It's on the store to apprehend you while you're there.

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