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retiredaccount wrote

Cooperatives, comrade.

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retiredshared2 wrote

Oh yeah, definitely. They're just one of the best choices to offer to other people in the current capitalist society- being a squatter isn't a lifestyle for everyone, so its good to open up an alternative.

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ziq wrote

of course there are societies that weren't capitalist, capitalism is a very recent invention that came with intensive agriculture and industrialization.

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OKC OP wrote

That wasn't my question. Is every commie boss here only running a co-op? Or are there commie business owners?

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retiredaccount wrote (edited )

You were asking us specifically. I'm a contributing member of a cooperative was my answer. How do you expect any of us to speak for everyone?

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OKC OP wrote

Then you are not a business owner.

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retiredaccount wrote (edited )

Then I'm afraid you'll get few replies. Most users of this site aren't very rich, and cooperatives by definition often don't have owners.

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OKC OP wrote

Being a business owner doesn't make you rich.

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retiredaccount wrote

Refer to 'cooperatives by definition don't have owners'. Most communists would likely found a cooperative, and thus not own it, discounting them from your question as you discounted me.

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OKC OP wrote

You assume too much about your comrades. I didn't ask about co-ops and you're spamming at this point.

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retiredaccount wrote

You asked about business owners, and members of coops own it together. If you ask a question about business owners but discount one form of business owner, you won't get answers in the first place.

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OKC OP wrote

They're not business owners in any way.

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retiredaccount wrote

If they own it together, they're business owners. Or are all shareholders of corporations 'not businessowners', even if majority?

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OKC OP wrote (edited )

They would be shareholders, not owners.

Unless they own the majority of shares like the Murdochs, which wouldn't happen with a co-op.

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geegaw wrote

I have one business registered and two others in the works. You quickly learn how BS the entire thing is, especially when it comes to imaginary property.

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Cheeks wrote

I've had multiple businesses in my 40 years of existence. First one was a record label when I was 16-18, back when people paid for music. The bands were employees, I had no staff. I paid the bands based on what we all brought in. New bands were only added based on consensus. Most of the bands disbanded after a couple years. So I sold it divvied up the money and was able to buy my mother a cheap house.

At 22 I lived in a tent purposefully in TN. Needed money, borrowed a truck, offered to haul away peoples trash in the area, completely rural area without trash pickup. Three months it was 6 employees to make 3 teams of 2. Also more of a coop model, also before I knew what that even meant. After 2 years most of us wanted to move, the others ready to just move on, we sold it to a nearby municipality and I was able to buy a better home for my disabled mother.

Now I run a farm that's failing and love it. 2 employees. Me and my business partner are the only employees.

So... Fuck anybody who doesn't know what goes into running a business. I work far more hours than a lot of other people to simply not be enslaved by a boss other than those that I choose to work with. But most of all fuck capitalism.

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